[kris]

Hi Brad;

Can you please open a project for us to start discussing how to organize this project?

Thanks a lot! (I know you're much busier now than ever before ...)

[jcc7]

Brad will probably ask for the name of the project before he sets it up (though "Untitled project" does have a certain ring to it. ).

Since this isn't a post in the Deimos forum, I'm guessing you've given up on using that name. I don't think the diverse Deimos group would mind people posting in their forum and adding code to the repository. Really. They strike me as a friendly and welcoming bunch. But you've decided you want to start from scratch, and that's fine...

Anyways, I do like the name "Phoenix" that someone suggested. Old fans of the browser now known as Mozilla Firefox will probably recall that it was originally called Phoenix (until it was renamed to Firebird and then re-renamed to Firefox). Phoenix would probably be okay for us as long as we don't make a browser (Phoenix Technologies wasn't a fan of the Phoenix browser).

[kris]

Brad is gonna' setup a forum called PhobosRising, just so we can start discussing things.

Some posts I saw (Sean & Matthew, I think) suggested starting afresh, and then culling code from the most appropriate places. Someone noted that it wouldn't be fair to dive into Deimos and start cutting it up! I agree; but let's not bother too much with that until there's at least there's a plan to look over?

Also, it's worth noting that I do not have some expectation of being involved ... if invited, that's a different matter. I'm just taking the ball out of that box which you unlocked

I sent you an email a little earlier. Sorry I didn't touch bases with ya before.

[brad]

All set on the new forum. I can do a space in the Forum Name, but when it comes to a Subversion repository, we'll go with PhobosRising or the latest brainstorm for a name.

BA
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[qbert]

I like pheonix as the name , 'from the ashes of phobos arises a new beast' .

Id also like to help. Originally I thought the stdlib needed to be as light as possible, but ive totally reversed my position :S.

I think an xml parsing library would be invaluable, what do you guys think ? Theres lots out there, I was going to suggest XiMol ( http://ximol.sourceforge.net/ ) . What do you guys think ? Id like to contribute this ( ported to D ) , but Id like a nod saying 'yes we'll look it over for inclusion if you do it' .

Also what (where) are the coding standards ?

Thanks!
Charlie

[kris]

[Arcane Jill]

I plan to start porting the ICU C API to D this weekend. I reckon the basic strategy should be:

(1) port the C API (basically turn the .h header files into .d header files). That at least gets us the the functions. Should probably go in namespace <something>.c.icu;

(2) then make a D wrapper around that. Should probably go in namespace <something>.icu;

I noticed that the C download already contains DLLs, so using them might not be that hard.

Is this appropriate for Phoenix? Deimos? The ICU source code already exists, so all we need do is a port. Converting header files shouldn't require much Unicode knowledge, so it's something more than one person can work on.

Arcane Jill

[jcc7]

[sean]

[juanjo]

I like a lot the proposal of including anything (without discussion) into Deimos and let it mature there (while people test the module/s). Once the author feels confident about the module/s, it follows the Phoenix coding standarts, it correctly uses the Phoenix API, etc, it can be proposed for inclusion into Phoenix (on a mailing list, forum, etc) where it would need the aproval of one (of maybe two, or three as the community growns...) members of the "Phoenix comitee".

For this to work Deimos should be an image of Phoenix *plus* added (or updated) modules considered for inclusion; this way a developer can prepare the full transition to "oficial" Phoenix from Deimos (using the standart API, modules and the such).

Excuse me for my engRish (TM).